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Old 07-13-2011, 11:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I haven't been here in a long while and probably haven't taken proper care of my '07 with an LMM. After 61K miles on the clock, I'm thinking the fuel quality in this country isn't getting any better and maybe I should be using an additive.

Since way back when, Stanadyne has always had a good rep but I'm confused. Where I've seen it for sale online, I see no mention of the COLOR. Yet to my understanding, there is a color that improves the lubricity only and another color that improves both lubricity AND the cetane rating. Without a mention, how does one know what he's getting?

Can any one enlighten me? Also, is the general rule to use it with every fill up or just 'once in a while'.

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The purple is the lubrication only, and the blue label is that and the cetane booster. As far as how often- once in a while is a minimum, every or every other fill up is recommended.
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I have been using Stanadyne performance formula since day 1 in my LMM. I use it every time I fill up!
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Look at the web sites more closely, they usually have a fact sheet for each product they sell. Some guys use performance, some use the lubricant, and some put both in at every fuel up. I put performance in the tank at every fuel up for the past 7 years without fail. Put on the Nicktane and between the two never had a fuel issue.
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Performance formula has the cetane booster...which really isn't necessary in the summer when you're not dealing with winter diesel. You need much more of it to reach proper mixture, so the per-tank cost of the blue performance formula is much higher.

In the summer, purple lubricity formula is all you need, and the dosage is much smaller.

Depending on where you live, you may not have winter diesel, but for those of us that do, the cetane additive in the Stanadyne blue is very worthy to keep MPG up - it made a *dramatic* difference for me in the winter when I started running it after a winter of running lubricity only.
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I don't believe the cetane booster has anything to do with the cold temps of winter; not as far as performance goes, anyway. (I mean to say that cold temps are not why cetance booster is used). The cetane concept is similar to octane in gasoline. The result from boosting cetane is a more efficient combustion process; a benefit in all temps. Centane booster is desireable year round.

The "anti-gel" additive portion of the product is what's not needed in summer.

This is fairly common in the market place.

For example, the Power Serivce products are marketed similary. The silver bottle (diesel kleen) has cetane booster, demulsifiers and lubricity agents, but no anti-gel. The white bottle (diesel fuel supplement) has all of those, plus anti-gel. Interestingly, the silver summer bottle has +6 boost of cetane, but the while bottle only has +4 cetane boost. Why? Because (I was told by their engineer when I spoke with them on the phone a few years ago) as the product is loaded up with different addtives, there is a finite capacity to what the medium can carry and not have stuff fall out of suspension. So, when they add the anti-gel and other cold-temp specific enhancements to the forumla, they must back down the cetane booster to allow more "room" in the chemisty for the other components.

You can use the "winter" formulas of Power Service, Stanadyne, Howes, Amsoil, Schaeffers, etc year round with no concerns.
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Based on my experience Summer diesel has more then enough of a cetane rating to suffice - adding more is unlikely to help with fuel mileage any more, therefore, is arguably a waste of money.

If anyone has improved summer fuel mileage by boosting cetane beyond that or regular summer formulated diesel, I'd be all ears though.
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I haven't been here in a long while and probably haven't taken proper care of my '07 with an LMM. After 61K miles on the clock, I'm thinking the fuel quality in this country isn't getting any better and maybe I should be using an additive.

Since way back when, Stanadyne has always had a good rep but I'm confused. Where I've seen it for sale online, I see no mention of the COLOR. Yet to my understanding, there is a color that improves the lubricity only and another color that improves both lubricity AND the cetane rating. Without a mention, how does one know what he's getting?

Can any one enlighten me? Also, is the general rule to use it with every fill up or just 'once in a while'.

Thanks, michigancamper
I use the stanadyne Performance Formula and the Lubricity Formula in every tank. Once my current supply of Stanadyne is gone I will be changing to the Opti-Lube XPD. The Opti-Lube XPD has twice the micron improvement as the Stanadyne at about the same price.

The "color" that you are talking about is the label on the stanadyne bottle:
-Blue label - Performance Formula - Cetane improver, anti-gel, bio-cide, lubricity, and some other stuff (technical term)

-Purple label - Lubricity only, but 5x higher micron improver than the Performance Formula

-Red label - Performance Jr. same as Performance Formula without the anti-gel and cetane improver.

-Green label - Winter formula
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