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Old 04-02-2011, 08:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Gooseneck oil bath brakes

I don't know where else to post this, but I have a gooseneck flat trailer that has been sitting inside all winter. Yesterday I noticed that oil is leaking from one of the wheels. I know it is probably the oil bath brakes, but what could be wrong with them and how do I fix? Thanks, Jim.
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I don't know where else to post this, but I have a gooseneck flat trailer that has been sitting inside all winter. Yesterday I noticed that oil is leaking from one of the wheels. I know it is probably the oil bath brakes, but what could be wrong with them and how do I fix? Thanks, Jim.
Sorry, I've never heard of oil bath brakes; what are they? Weird, that just sounds absurd, need to do a search, or is this a joke?
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Wow, learn something every day; actually they are oil bath hubs that use oil rather that grease. That said seals are critical because of the very nature of the lube; sounds like you need seals and be sure to carefully inspect the seal mating surfaces for any problems as water seems to be a larger factor with the oil bath system.
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Sorry, you're right, I should have said hubs instead of brakes. Thanks for the reply. Jim.
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Old 04-03-2011, 03:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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That is right. The hubs are oil bath and your seals are bad.
However because they are bad you will more then likely have oil soaked brakes so your brakes should also be replaced.
This is a part that it doesn't hurt to change once a year or once every two years. Gives you a chance to see your brakes and know the seals are good.
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Oil bath wheel bearing remind me of super heavy duty service expectancy.
If you don't use the trailer that much (it sits over winter), maybe consider changing over to greased bearings. The seals may dry out but the grease likely won't ruin the brake shoes as quick. Even at that the bearings should be checked/lubed annually or bi annually at least.
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Agree with others -brakes have probably been compromised by the leaking gear lube.

Oil bath hubs work great on stuff that is constantly moving. Grease lube hubs are a better fit for stuff that sits any length of time between usages.

Make sure you use a "unitized" seal for replacement seal if continuing with a oil bath system. These seals cost ~20 or so instead of the typical $6-$10 name brand double lip seal.
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Thanks for the advice everyone. It looks like I should probably switch to grease hubs, since I use the trailer infrequently.
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Thanks for the advice everyone. It looks like I should probably switch to grease hubs, since I use the trailer infrequently.
Probably don't need to change hubs -just use grease lube and a double lip seal instead of a unitized seal. If you have polycarbonate hub center caps they don't care if it is grease or oil inside.
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Old 04-09-2011, 10:34 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks Trail, I really did not want the expense of new hubs, the trailer is almost new. I'll look into it.
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