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Torsion Bars
I'm rebuilding the front end of my K2500HD. Everything is unbolted/removed, except the torsion bars are rusted SOLID to the lower A-Arm and also to the keys - I'd be happy to get either end apart. I've been beating on the A-Arms (forwards and back), along with liberal doses of Liquid Wrench & PB Blaster. I've tried using a 2 jaw puller to pull the A-Arm off of the torsion bar - not even a budge! If I could just get it to budge, I'd be able to beat it towards the front; then the back; then the front; eventually getting it off. I've tried using some "heat", but it didn't to anything either. I've tried using an air-hammer in the hole behind the keys, but all that did was to "polish" the end of the torsion bar (and make my ears ring). With the A-Arm winched towards the front of the truck, I slid a 3/4 pipe into the torsion bar opening, and beat it with a 16 lbs sledge - the bar still didn't budge.
So, anybody have any other "tricks"? I'm just about out of ideas! What I hoped to be a 1 or 2 day job, is now up to a week and a half! I've concidered cutting the bars (how much are new ones?), but then I'd still have to figure out how to get the remaining stuck pieces out.
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I had The same problem with my 95 LD. I replaced the bushings with the a-arms hanging from the torsion bars,PIA
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Don't force the bar out, there is alot of tension on them, and it could be dangerous.
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Do you have the front end off the ground with the keys completely unloaded?
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You don't need the unloading tool if you remove the upper ball joint from the steering knuckle and lower the lower a-arm with the jack while the frame is supported by a jackstand. I've done 6 trucks this way. You do need the unloading tool to adjust the ride height. Of the 3 ifs trucks I've junked ,I was only able to remove the a-arms from the torsion bars on 1 of them. The keys were also siezed on all of them.
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The above said "Everything is unbolted/removed" - so yeah, there is NO tension on anything.
I was able to FINALLY get the passenger side key removed (hopefully the driver side won't take too much longer). I heated the key up real HOT, then beat on the end of the torsion bar through that round hole using a 1/2" socket extension and a 3 lbs sledge, then heated it up, beat on it, heat, beat, heat, beat, etc. It finally started to move. After it finally started to move, it still took another 6 or more heating and beating cycles, but at least one side is now apart.
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Do you have enough room to just cut the keys off with a torch, after heating the keys so many times , they are junk now anyway. The torsion bars will probably be no good also if you heated them to much around where the keys sits. Charlie
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They can really rust in the older style stamped steel arms like 88-96ish style, the new cast arms arent as bad. I have in the past cut the crossmember then removed the a-arm with the torsion bar then pulled the key off of the bar. Never could get it out of the arm.
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