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Old 12-26-2006, 04:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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make a return rate test kit

O.K. I watched the GM Tech. do a return rate test on my truck. He used a test tube with measurements and two small hoses with threaded fittings on the ends.

He took a plug off the rear of the drivers side of the engine and off the front of the passenger side of the engine.

He then attached the hoses and placed one in each measuring device.

Next he cranked the engine for fifteen seconds without starting the truck (took out a breaker or fuse so the truck would crank but not start)

He then read the measurements. He found that the right hand side was returning twice as much fuel as allowed by spec.

ok,

What is the allowable amount?
What are the fittings needed?
Where do the hoses screw into?
What does this test tell you in the end?
Should you have any fuel returning from the test locations?
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Old 12-26-2006, 05:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I thought you just had the injectors replaced?

Something going wrong for you to get the return rates checked?
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Old 01-03-2007, 01:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Nope, just thought it would be good information to have up here on the board to help people diagnose the problem at home in the shop
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It would be nice
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And they charged you??

What did the dealer charge you for the test? I was going to have one done just before my 100K mile mark to see how my injectors were doing. Thanks
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All they did was pull a plug out of both injector rails. (So I thought, I did not see the exact spot where the two plugs came out... then a nipple was screwed in and a hose was attached. the hose was placed in a measuring cup and the technician pulled a fuse so the truck would not start. Next the technician cranked the engine for 15 seconds and then looked to see how much fuel had come out of each line and into the measuring cups.

I would say that a 35mm plastic film canister 3/4 full was about the size of the "allowable amount of return" My truck happened to return over twice that out of one port
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From the service manual, might help,

SMU - Revised Fuel System Diagnosis - High Pressure Side #03-06-04-047 - (Sep 26, 2003)
Revised Fuel System Diagnosis-High Pressure Side

2001-2004 Chevrolet Silverado

2001-2004 GMC Sierra

With 6.6L Diesel Engine (VIN 1 - RPO LB7)

This bulletin is being issued to revise the Fuel System Diagnosis-High Pressure Side in the Engine Controls sub-section of the Service Manual. Please replace the current information in the Service Manual with the following information.

The following information has been updated within SI. If you are using a paper version of this Service Manual, please make a reference to this bulletin on the affected page.

This information has been revised in the above applications due to the introduction of new special tool EN-47589.
Supply System

The fuel flows through a pre-filter screen in the tank and to the engine through the fuel supply lines. There is no lift pump in the fuel tanks or on the frame. The fuel passes through the base plate of the fuel injector control module (FICM) to cool the module. From the FICM, the fuel flows to the fuel filter assembly, which combines a water separator, a prime pump and a filter element. Within the assembly, there is also a fuel heater. An integrated hand pump is used to prime the fuel system after changing the fuel filter or servicing the fuel system. The fuel injection pump at the front of the engine valley includes a fuel supply pump and a high-pressure pump. Fuel is drawn to the supply pump from the primary fuel tank by the supply pump and delivered to the high-pressure pump.
High Pressure System

The much larger section of the pump assembly is the high-pressure fuel injection pump. The pump is engine-driven by the camshaft gear. From the high-pressure pump, the fuel flows through the junction block. The junction block routes pressurized fuel to both common fuel rails. Each common fuel rail supplies one bank of four fuel injectors.
Return System

The Fuel Return System routes fuel from the fuel injectors, the junction block, and the fuel injection pump. The return fuel travels to the fuel cooler and then to the fuel tank. This fuel is used to cool and lubricate the injection pump and the injectors.

Important

* If you were not referred to this test from another diagnostic, do not perform this procedure.
* Only perform this test when the fuel is more than 18°C (65°F).
* The fuel return volumes vary based on the API rating of the diesel fuel.
* A fuel injector may have high fuel return flow only at higher engine temperatures.

1. Were you referred here from one of the following diagnostics?
* DTC P0094 or DTC P1094
* Surges/Chuggles in Symptoms
* Rough, Unstable, or Incorrect Idle in Symptoms
* Fuel Injector Balance Test with Tech 2
o If you answered Yes, go to the Fuel Pressure Regulator Graphing after step 48.
o If you answered No, go to Step 2.
2. Remove the air duct from the air cleaner assembly and the turbo inlet.
3. Remove the air intake pipe. Refer to Air Intake Pipe Replacement .
4. Drain the coolant and remove the water outlet tube. Refer to Water Outlet Tube Replacement in Engine Cooling.

5. Remove the fuel injection pump fuel return rubber hose from the junction block (2). Cap the fitting on the block with a 3/8 inch rubber cap (1) to prevent fuel leakage.



6. Attach a rubber hose (1) with a barbed fitting to the fuel injection pump return hose and insert the other end into a 1 gallon clean fuel container (2).
7. Remove the ignition 1 relay or EDU relay, as equipped, using the J 43244 Relay Puller Pliers.

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8. Remove the glow plug harness bracket bolt.
9. Remove the glow plug harness bracket nut from the valve cover.
10. Remove the glow plug controller/relay mounting nuts.
11. Reposition the glow plug controller/relay.


12. Remove the fuel line retainers.


13. Remove the banjo bolt (2) from left rear cylinder head.


14. Install the black hose (1) of the J 45873 to the left rear cylinder head and install the other end of the hose into one of the J 45873 graduated cylinders.
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15. Remove the banjo bolt (3) from the leak-off block.


16. Install the other black hose (1) of the J 45873 to the leak--off block (2) and install the other end of the hose into another J 45873 graduated cylinders.

17. Remove the banjo bolt (4) from the junction block (2).
18. Crank the engine for 15 seconds while observing the fuel pressure relief valve on the junction block for fuel leakage.
* If fuel is leaking from the fuel pressure relief valve, replace the fuel pressure relief valve. Refer to Fuel Pressure Relief Valve Replacement .
* If no fuel is leaking from the fuel pressure relief valve, go to step 19.


19. Crank the engine in 15 second intervals, with one minute cooling time between, until fuel starts to flow into one or both of the J 45873 graduated cylinders (1).
20. Elevate the hoses (2) to retain the fuel in the hoses, and empty the graduated cylinders into a suitable container.
21. Install the hoses (2) into 2 of the graduated cylinders (1).

Important

The engine cranking speed must be more than 150 RPM.
22. Crank the engine for 15 seconds.
23. Measure the quantity of fuel in each of the graduated cylinders. Refer to Fuel System Specifications for fuel return flow specifications.
* If there is more than the specified quantity of fuel from either cylinder bank, remove the valve cover from that bank. Refer to Valve Rocker Arm Cover Replacement-Lower Left or Valve Rocker Arm Cover Replacement-Lower Right , then go to step 24.
* If there is less than the specified quantity from each cylinder bank, replace the fuel injection pump and repeat steps 19-23.
* If the fuel injection pump has already been replaced in this repair and there is less than the specified quantity of fuel from each bank, go to step 45.

Important

When the fuel injector pressure lines are removed, debris will fall into the fuel injector inlet fitting. Vacuum the debris from the inlet fitting of the fuel injector.


24. Remove the return line from injectors.

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25. Install the four yellow hoses (2) from the J 45873 to the injectors (1) and the other end of the hoses into each of the J 45873 graduated cylinders.
26. Install the four injector supply lines.
Tighten

Tighten the supply lines to 44 N·m (32 lb ft).


27. Connect the engine-to-chassis harness connectors to enable the starter.

28. Install the fuel filter hoses, FICM hoses, and the fuel supply hose. Push the fuel supply hose in until it locks.
29. Install the black hoses from the J 45873 into the container that the fuel injection pump return hose is in.
30. Prime the fuel system 30 times to remove air from the fuel system. Air will be forced out of the system within 2 minutes. Crank the engine in 15 second intervals, with one minute cooling time between, until fuel starts to flow into one or more of the graduated cylinders.
31. Elevate the four hoses to retain the fuel in the hoses, and empty the 4 graduated cylinders into a suitable container.
32. Install the hoses in the graduated cylinders in numerical order.

Important

The engine cranking speed must be more than 150 RPM.
33. Crank the engine for 15 seconds.

Important

A fuel injector may have high fuel return flow only at higher engine temperatures. If the high return flow ceases between the bank return flow test and the individual injector return flow test the fuel injectors may need to be heated to an operating temperature before performing this test.
34. Measure the quantity of fuel in each of the graduated cylinders. Refer to Fuel System Specifications for fuel return flow specifications. Remove the fuel feed pipes from any injectors that have high return fuel flow, and install the EN 47589 fuel pressure adapter cap(s) to the fuel rail outlets. Then go to step 35.
35. Repeat steps 30 through 34 until no fuel injectors have more than the specified quantity of fuel flow.
36. Were both banks of fuel injectors tested with steps 30 through 35?
* If the answer is YES, go to step 44.
* If the answer is NO, go to step 37.
37. Ensure that the hoses are still installed as they were in steps 14 through 17.
38. Prime the fuel system 30 times to remove the air from the fuel system. Air will be forced out of the system within 2 minutes.

39. Crank the engine in 15 second intervals, with one minute cooling time between, until fuel starts to flow into one or both of the J 45873 graduated cylinders (1).
40. Elevate the hoses (2) to retain the fuel in the hoses, and empty the graduated cylinders into a suitable container.
41. Install the hoses (2) into 2 of the graduated cylinders (1).

Important

The engine cranking speed must be more than 150 RPM.
42. Crank the engine for 15 seconds.
43. Measure the quantity of fuel in each of the graduated cylinders. Refer to Fuel System Specifications for fuel return flow specifications.
44. If there is more than the specified quantity of fuel in either of the 2 cylinders, remove the valve cover from that cylinder head. Refer to Valve Rocker Arm Cover Replacement-Lower Left or Valve Rocker Arm Cover Replacement-Lower Right. Then perform steps 29 through 35 on the bank of fuel injectors with the high fuel flow, Then go to step 44. If both of the cylinder have less than the specified quantity of fuel, go to step 44. Replace all of the fuel injectors that had fuel rail outlets capped. Refer to Fuel Injector Replacement.
45. Install all disconnected and removed components. Refer to the applicable procedures.
46. Start and idle the engine. You may have to prime the fuel system before the engine will start.
47. Connect a scan tool.
48. Command the fuel pressure control to 160 MPa with a scan tool.
* If the fuel pressure is more than 145 MPa, the system is OK.
* If the fuel pressure is unable to increase to more than 145 MPa, replace the fuel injection pump. Refer to Fuel Injection Pump Replacement .

Fuel Pressure Regulator Graphing

1. Set up the scan tool in the following format:
1. Select the Data Display on the scan tool.
2. Select Engine Data 1.
3. Select the More softkey 2 times.
4. Select the Live Plot softkey.
5. Select the Engine Speed, Actual Fuel Rail Pressure, and Desired Fuel Rail Pressure parameters by highlighting each parameter and depressing the ENTER softkey.
6. Select the Accept softkey.
7. Select the More softkey, then select the Change Min/Max softkey.
8. Select the More softkey, and adjust the parameters to the following Min/Max ranges:
* The Engine Speed Min/Max range is 0 to 1000 RPM.
* The Actual Fuel Rail Pressure Min/Max range is 1.0 to 160 MPa.
* The Desired Fuel Rail Pressure Min/Max range is 1.0 to 160 MPa.
2. Start and idle the engine.
3. Observe the live plot for sharp changes in the Actual Fuel Rail Pressure above and below the Desired fuel rail pressure while performing one of the following actions:
* Idling the engine.
* Shifting the transmission from Park to Drive, and back to Park.
* Turning the steering wheel from lock to lock.
* Turning the air conditioning ON and OFF.
4. If there is a violent fluctuation in the Actual Fuel Rail pressure, as seen in the third Graphic above, replace the fuel pressure regulator. Refer to Fuel Pressure Regulator Replacement .
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