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Old 06-16-2004, 04:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was minding my own business while doing a tree estimate for a customer and my cell phone rang. It was Ken from TESTAND CORP. in Rhode Island. He was calling to tell me he was prepared to do the comparitive study for us!!!!


I rubbed my eyes and wondered if I was dreaming!!!! TESTAND CORP. makes the test stands for all ISO and SAE air, oil filter tests! These are $285,000 machines!!! The results will be definitive and absolute. There will be no issues of humidity, human error or bias!!! My days of testing filters are over!


I got Ken really interesed in what we were doing when I called him for help. He offered a lot of advice but nothing substitutes for the real deal!! Ken is a Ford PSD owner and is as enthusiastic as I am to get REAL data!!! Now he is offering to do the real deal for us!!! All he needs is the filters.


I have some, but not enough brands. Ken will test anything EXCEPT Fram, since there would be a conflict of interest. I will contact UMP. I have AC Delco, UNI and Amsoil. We will need a K&N and any other filter we wish to test.


Time is of the essence since he will have a fully functional machine at his disposal for only a month or so. PLEASE reply or PM me for details. Most filters will be sent directly to TESTAND Corp. in Rhode Island to avoid shipping delay.


Here is our opportunity!!!! Let's get any and all brands for comparison!!! These will be COMPLETE ISO 5011/SAE J726 tests!! Flow restriction, efficiency, and on and on!!! SPICEREdited by: SPICER

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Old 06-16-2004, 05:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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SPICER,


Curious, why is there a conflict of interest concerning Fram and Ken?

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Old 06-16-2004, 08:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Curious, why is there a conflict of interest concerning Fram and Ken?
It sounds like Testand supplies Fram with all of their test stands. I think He wants to avoid stepping on toes and creating a problem with one of his closer clients. I don't know all the details and relationships. I don't want to bite the hand that feeds us.

What will be needed is filters for testing. I have a bunch of filters loaned to me. I will need to find out if these individual filters should be used. The problem is that a filter tested in an ISO/SAE test is essentially no good after testing since it is loaded with test dust. I don't want to send filters loaned to me unless those who lent them are OK with never getting them back. Kind of a donation to science!

The UNI I have has been run several days on my test stand and we probably should send a new one. I have a brand new Amsoil and OE AC Delco that I will send. I will also send a used OE and K&N. Ken is interested in used filters also to compare efficiency with some use and miles. Please if you are interested please get in touch with me. SPICER
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Old 06-16-2004, 11:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ooops, that should have been a PM. Edited by: WanaDmxsub
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have my old standard blue AFE if you want it....


It is used and has about 3K of use.
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Old 06-17-2004, 09:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have a few PM's to respond to. Some offers for test filters!!!! Perfect!!!. Any filter tested in THIS FASHION will be useless after testing. Any filters already donated from the past can be returned to sender or used for the test also.


I woke up this morning still not believing the offer. Typically a single filter test by an independent ISO/SAE tester is around $1500. He is offering free for the sake of science and research. It would be nice to get a representative sample from AS MANY manufacturers as possible!! Gotta Go for now!!! I had no intentions of doing anything with this until fall, but opportunity knocks!!! SPICER
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Cliff from UMP just called and will offer filters for testing. These will be sent directly to Testand Corp. in Rhode Island. Thanks Cliff!!!!


I will probably hit the local auto parts stores and pick up some Napa and others to send. I would like to test a Baldwin filter for the Duramax. Anybody know how to get one? Any other filter to be tested would be great. Only need the media, not the housing or piping like on the AFE's. SPICER
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jbplock is contacting WIX and Baldwin for filters. Thanks!!!! Just an update, thanks for all the help!!! Still need a new K&amp;N and AFE filter elements (no intake tubes or filter housing needed). SPICER
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Spicer,


This is great!!


I have a new Baldwin I can send. I also have a K&amp;N used once and cleaned and a UNI used once and cleaned. If you can use any or all of these PM me the details.


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Spicer,


This is great!!


I have a new Baldwin I can send. I also have a K&N used once and cleaned and a UNI used once and cleaned. If you can use any or all of these PM me the details.


Thanks,Tommy
abear, stand-by for further info. jbplock is doing some leg work with the Baldwin air filter. All filters must be new and fit our truck or the Ford PSD. We may send a couple of used ones but #of miles needs to be documented. I believe he plans to run re-useable filters new, then clean and re-oil according to instructions and re-run the test. This would simulate a "used " filter. I do want to send a few disposable paper filters with some miles on them to compare filtering efficiencies. It is pretty well accepted that paper filters better with age. Hopefully we will see evidence of that. I may pull mine out of the truck and send it for that matter. It is OE AC Delco paper.

Anyway this ball is rolling pretty quick. I want as many brands as possible to be tested. I may purchase some on my own if I must and solicit donations to help. We will see, hopefully enough offers will come through. I have never seen an AFE but I want it tested also. Just need the element. I will be in touch with all that have offered help! SPICER

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