LLY: LLY Batmowheel Opinions?

[stoddardlly]

Hey guys ive been doin a bunch of reading up on the Batmowheel. Most seem like good reviews im just curious on what everyones opinions are and if you got one lemme know what you think. i have a mostly stock dmax with exhaust and programmer. i dont do drag racing or sled pulling or anything just a little screwing around town and havin fun and some pulling. looking for a little less lag.

what do you guys think? im fully capable of the work myself (been through alotta first n second gen dmaxes so just the cost of the wheel.

[boothybunch]

A lot have reported some extra ponies from fitting the BmW. If you can do the work yourself, it maybe worth the $$$ as like you say no labour costs.

[stoddardlly]

Yeah i found some decently prommising info on a bunch of other threads...know if anyone ever reported mileage with it...seems lots of guys using it over 550hp using it as an alternative to a larger turbo...im not close to that yet...maybe tappin on the door of 400...still stock 5spd till i build it but as a daily driver im looking for better turbo response (less lag) and possibly a little more mileage (know this aint the majic fix but everyone would be excited with 1/2 - 1 mpg improvement haha). Thanks all

[plowboy_lbz]

per the cost of the wheel and your labor to put it in, you will never get that back from fuel savings. mpg gains would be very minimal. if your going to go through all the work to take the turbo out (and i know) put a better one in its place, but first save your coin for a built tranny and some efi live. efi live from a good tuner will net you better mpg gains than a btw.

[0621107]

Originally Posted by plowboy_lbz

per the cost of the wheel and your labor to put it in, you will never get that back from fuel savings. mpg gains would be very minimal. if your going to go through all the work to take the turbo out (and i know) put a better one in its place, but first save your coin for a built tranny and some efi live. efi live from a good tuner will net you better mpg gains than a btw.

this is true, also Dustin from ATP has posted on DF saying that they were doing testing with them and did not see any noticable differances over stock.

[stoddardlly]

So runnin like i am, no specific personal efi tuning for it...just a ppe standard lvl 3 tune will i see noticable seat of the pants gains? Will the turbo lite quicker with this? I know labor by even myself aint free (so the same for sittin on the couch) but considering spending 400 on my exhaust and gaining nothing but sound could a guy payin jus the cost of the wheel justify this if it preforms like lots of others say with about a 100* drop in egts n quicker spool...not lookin for neck breaking power...more lvls on the programmer or efi is for that...jus lookin for a little quicker spool up n maybe lower egts(not that its bad now)

[0621107]

I would not do it since you have to pull the whole turbo which isint impossible but not somehting I would ever do just for that....not worth it in my opinion. Save ur money for a trans or efi

[plowboy_lbz]

Originally Posted by stoddardlly

So runnin like i am, no specific personal efi tuning for it...just a ppe standard lvl 3 tune will i see noticable seat of the pants gains? Will the turbo lite quicker with this? I know labor by even myself aint free (so the same for sittin on the couch) but considering spending 400 on my exhaust and gaining nothing but sound could a guy payin jus the cost of the wheel justify this if it preforms like lots of others say with about a 100* drop in egts n quicker spool...not lookin for neck breaking power...more lvls on the programmer or efi is for that...jus lookin for a little quicker spool up n maybe lower egts(not that its bad now)

you will only notice very little if ANY by seat of that pants feel. biggest reason for this is your not maxing out your stock turbo or stock fuel system yet. for a bmw to do any good you need to be pushing the stocker to its limit and then the btw may give you alittle more. as stated before, save your money for a built trans, efi, and a lift pump. that will make you much happier. with all of that you will gain a solid 100 - 120 rwhp and that you will be able to feel!

[Krazy Ken]

I am not pushing my truck to the limit whatsoever but I noticed less lag, a bit more pull, and the most important to me was the lower EGT's. If your going to have to pay someone to pull the turbo- not worth it. If you are already doing something else in there like manifolds or up pipes and your doing the labor yourself then I would say yeah.

[stoddardlly]

yeah like i said id be doin labor for free...hmm maybe ill put it farther down the list like plowboy said...deff need to build the trans (more power is never enuf haha). thanks all for your info!