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Old 06-26-2006, 03:01 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I look forward to following the progress!!


I've got to say though, that con rod pic is probably the most worthless comparison I've seen. The size of a conrod is essentially based on the displacement per cylinder.........going with the logic of the pic, a single cylinder 5.9L engine would be just awesome cause the con rod would be just massive.
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:48 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I look forward to following the progress!!


I've got to say though, that con rod pic is probably the most worthless comparison I've seen. The size of a conrod is essentially based on the displacement per cylinder.........going with the logic of the pic, a single cylinder 5.9L engine would be just awesome cause the con rod would be just massive.
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:59 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Ever see a 300cuin Chevy 6cyl rod?

Rod size\mass\strength is directly dependent on designed power output of each cyl, as is piston mass - size does matter for torque.
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:30 PM   #34 (permalink)
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OK, maybe my last comment was a bit simplistic, but the PS vs C and DM vs C are still both an apples and oranges comparision.
On the other hand, the PS vs DM is valid since they're roughly the same displacement and both V8s.
But really, even though the DMax has the smaller con rod......even with the wick turned way up, it's not a part prone to failure is it?

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StingRayCrazy...or anyone else for that matter, Do you have any more info on 4bt/S10 conversions.... pics/links/anything? I'd love to have a small truck with a real diesel in it.

Also Stingray, when you say shoehorned, is it a lot of work to get the 6cyl to fit in GM products? just wondering
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:40 PM   #35 (permalink)
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3.9 BT4 conversions

Cummins conversions, here is a lnk to a couples home page thast converted a EB "Early Bronco" to the 3.9 Cummings. he says he gets 28 MPG in "mixed" driving". http://www.autoworldmt.com/Page_9.html I find this most interesting as I have an 1971 "EB" with a 302 that is very thirsty. I have a large after market main tank of 25 gallons vs 12 gallons. With my large main and 7.5 gallon Aux tank that gives me 32 Gallons usable fuel. That would give me about 900 miles of range.

As far as shoehorning a 5.9l Cummins in a Chevy Truck her is a guy that has done Hundreds of 5.9 conversions. http://www.autoworldmt.com/Page_9.html

Also our Fellow member here on the Diesel Place; Mike N has a 1989 1500 with 3.9L Cummins.

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Anyone use a Cummins engine with a 4L80E?
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http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...splay.php?f=30

I know a dodge link on a GM site but if you want info on cummins repowers this is a great forum. AutoWorldmt.com is another good one but some one beat me to it.
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StingRayCrazy...or anyone else for that matter, Do you have any more info on 4bt/S10 conversions.... pics/links/anything? I'd love to have a small truck with a real diesel in it.

Also Stingray, when you say shoehorned, is it a lot of work to get the 6cyl to fit in GM products? just wondering
As linked above AutoWorld has motor mounts as well as accessory brackets for the alternator and AC keeping them their stock locations.

CrewCab59 here on this forum and on CK5 Conversions has motor mounts and is working on adapters.

As far as the S10 conversion. In 2WD it should be fairly straight forward. My chip truck's power train would bolt right in with little mods. Same procedure as a bigblock v8 swap. The 4BT weighs 100lbs more than a 454 big block so heavy duty springs and spindles would be required. Also you would need a high rise hood since the 4BT is very tall.

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Anyone use a Cummins engine with a 4L80E?
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At autoworld they had to cut the front grill on a 97 6.5 td to make the swap?

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