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Old 12-20-2012, 09:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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lift pump mod ?

i have read that the walbro frc-10 is best pump for our 6.5's but they are really hard to get , specially for us canadians. now im a daily auto mechanic and came across a thought. the FRC-10 pump can push 50 gal/hr @ 12.5-16.5 psi. but again a dodge cummins pump can do 40 gallons per hour @ 13-15 psi. now would they be interchangable ? i know that the cummins pump should be a hella improvement over the stock 6.5td pump. let me know guys opinions and thoughts thanks.
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New injection pump vp44, 125 hp injectors. Raptop 150gph fuel pump
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New engine ecm. Rebuild wireing harness.
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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reason i ask is because i have a ton of stock lift pumps laying around the shop at work lol
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1997 gmc k1500 ext cab shortbox , chevy grill on it
Cummins 24 valve swap married to nv4500 tranny.
Hx35/40 hybrid turbo, 42 psi of boost.
1000ft.lbs of torq clutch with kevlar
First year electronic vp44 pump
New injection pump vp44, 125 hp injectors. Raptop 150gph fuel pump
1/2 fuel line
New engine ecm. Rebuild wireing harness.
6 inch febtech lift kit
White storm troooper custom paint job
35" duratracs.
4" diamond eye exhaust, custom downpipe for cummins
Bushwacker cut out fender flares
Custom double din in dash touch screen
new Eaton detroit locker, threw that g80 junk out. Awesome to drift and fishtailling
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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http://www.jegs.com/i/Carter/180/P4601HP/10002/-1

this is what i run with no issues at all. similar to the isb fuel pump but greater flow.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That would work :p does it directly bolt on to our fuel lines and also did u notice a difference? And how good are carter pumps compared to a walbro frc10 . Can i remove my sock in tank and add a filter ? Where can i get an inline filter to go with that pump. Thanks
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1997 gmc k1500 ext cab shortbox , chevy grill on it
Cummins 24 valve swap married to nv4500 tranny.
Hx35/40 hybrid turbo, 42 psi of boost.
1000ft.lbs of torq clutch with kevlar
First year electronic vp44 pump
New injection pump vp44, 125 hp injectors. Raptop 150gph fuel pump
1/2 fuel line
New engine ecm. Rebuild wireing harness.
6 inch febtech lift kit
White storm troooper custom paint job
35" duratracs.
4" diamond eye exhaust, custom downpipe for cummins
Bushwacker cut out fender flares
Custom double din in dash touch screen
new Eaton detroit locker, threw that g80 junk out. Awesome to drift and fishtailling
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Are the fittings that size? The Carter pump it is 3/8" NPT, 14-16psi. I think my OEM style pump is going T/U, so I maybe in the market for a replacement (pending testing).

My limited reading of LP's say that a higher pressure lift pump is actually BETTER for the 6.5's. So if that is true...why bother replacing it w/ another stock pump....
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Well i kinda need that high presure lift pump cause my ip pump is maxed out on fuel atm! Lol need more fuel!
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1997 gmc k1500 ext cab shortbox , chevy grill on it
Cummins 24 valve swap married to nv4500 tranny.
Hx35/40 hybrid turbo, 42 psi of boost.
1000ft.lbs of torq clutch with kevlar
First year electronic vp44 pump
New injection pump vp44, 125 hp injectors. Raptop 150gph fuel pump
1/2 fuel line
New engine ecm. Rebuild wireing harness.
6 inch febtech lift kit
White storm troooper custom paint job
35" duratracs.
4" diamond eye exhaust, custom downpipe for cummins
Bushwacker cut out fender flares
Custom double din in dash touch screen
new Eaton detroit locker, threw that g80 junk out. Awesome to drift and fishtailling
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Also does anyone know the specs from our stock lift pump . Like i said i have alot of cummins lp's and wanna see if even that would make an upgrade
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1997 gmc k1500 ext cab shortbox , chevy grill on it
Cummins 24 valve swap married to nv4500 tranny.
Hx35/40 hybrid turbo, 42 psi of boost.
1000ft.lbs of torq clutch with kevlar
First year electronic vp44 pump
New injection pump vp44, 125 hp injectors. Raptop 150gph fuel pump
1/2 fuel line
New engine ecm. Rebuild wireing harness.
6 inch febtech lift kit
White storm troooper custom paint job
35" duratracs.
4" diamond eye exhaust, custom downpipe for cummins
Bushwacker cut out fender flares
Custom double din in dash touch screen
new Eaton detroit locker, threw that g80 junk out. Awesome to drift and fishtailling
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:21 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Just going from memory here, that Carter pump looks very much like the one I put on my truck in place of the stock pump. Without going out in the rain and mud and crawling under I can't be certain it is the same model number, but it does mount the same as the one I got.

I am satisfied with what I got, no problems of any kind. At an idle I can hear it if I'm listening specifically for it, otherwise I never hear it until I shut the motor down. Then I hear it continue to run until the oil pressure drops down and the OPS shuts off.

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Old 12-21-2012, 08:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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A pump is a pump is a pump.... if you can make the cummins pump fit and it's already in reach, I say use it and tell us the results. The pressure and flow are higher than stock then it should help.

As long as you can make it fit it should work, you have one inlet, one outlet, one hot wire and one ground wire. You're good to go.
Just to be safe though, as with any after market lift pump, you might want to do the ops mod so you don't have to start changing oil pressure sensors all the time afterwards.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Okay i was gonna try it either way. Its a regular carter pump lol with 3/8 inlet outlet . Whats an ops mod ?
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1997 gmc k1500 ext cab shortbox , chevy grill on it
Cummins 24 valve swap married to nv4500 tranny.
Hx35/40 hybrid turbo, 42 psi of boost.
1000ft.lbs of torq clutch with kevlar
First year electronic vp44 pump
New injection pump vp44, 125 hp injectors. Raptop 150gph fuel pump
1/2 fuel line
New engine ecm. Rebuild wireing harness.
6 inch febtech lift kit
White storm troooper custom paint job
35" duratracs.
4" diamond eye exhaust, custom downpipe for cummins
Bushwacker cut out fender flares
Custom double din in dash touch screen
new Eaton detroit locker, threw that g80 junk out. Awesome to drift and fishtailling
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