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Old 12-01-2011, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Starter WIRE HOOK UP SUPER EASY

Ok as you all know I've been trying to hook up a starter. Something that should only take about 30 mins has took me 3 days now. YES YES I KNOW YOUR PROBLY THINKING WTH!!! let me explain.


Ok starter whent out. So i wasn't sure how to take it off. Did some reasearch. I couldn't find some else on here with the same kind as mine. As i seen. I have no idea what kind. Im guessing a Direct drive or what ever that means. Between the weather we've been having. RAIN!!! and extreme cold here. and My dead battierys and not having the correct tools. And having to wait for the starter to be rebuilt. Has come to probly a week today im guessing. I've whent cross eyed. probly for messing with it so freaking much.


I also found out that the guy that put it on last time broke a wire possibly. The cable for cable 2 that ive marked has a huge termail. I was distracted when i took this off. Because of the shape it was it. So i forgot what post it goes back on. If it isnt soposed to have that big ass termail on it. I guess it would be best to cut it and use a smaller one. For a better connection. Common sence i say. I figured it would share a post with the big one. (POST 1) welll.. since he says he dont rember if he cut it or what ever. I AM LOST!


something super easy has drove me to almost set my truck on fire. Luckly its to close to the house. so my wife wont let me.

please diesel place.. you guys know everything! lol come on please help : )


basicly what im asking is please just tell me what cable goes to which in my pics. PLEASE!

OBTW!!!!! I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION! when i do bolt the starter on hook up and everything. Its kinda off the wall but with my luck here lately everything is going down the shitter. Ok say when i do get everything hooked up and bolter. is there a possiblitlity that the gear that turns the big gear in side the "bell houseing" not sure if thats what its called some how that just seems like what it would be called. I have no idea what its called. ITS THE BIG BLACK THING THAT THE STARTER GOES INSIDE AND TURNS A BIG GEAR. is it possible that these 2 gears wont line up if the starter is inserted. WILL THEY LINE UP AUTOMATICLY WHEN THE STARTER IS INSERTED AND BOLTED N EVERYTHING!


I TELL YOU I'VE GONE MAD!


PLEASE HELP ASAP!! THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH!
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Old 12-01-2011, 07:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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AND BTW what does the "R" mean on the scelinoid?
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would try hooking cable 2 and cable 1 both on to the big battery post. And the starter wire (cable 3) on to the "S" post. None of my vehicles have anything hooked to the "R".

You do have the battery disconnected while you are monkeying around with the starter, right?

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AND BTW what does the "R" mean on the scelinoid?
"R" stands for "return" and "S" stands for "switch."

The R terminal is often used for ballast-resistor bypass on gas engines and electric ether injection on some diesels.
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Ok calm down a little. Attach wire 1 AND wire 2 to the big post. Attach the little wire to the post marked "s" NOT the one marked R. The other med sized post is the wire that goes between the solenoid (the smaller cylinder type thing on top) and the starter. If that wire isn't hooked up you'll get nothing out of the starter.

Yes it;s called the bellhousing. and the starter gear turns the flywheel. so small gear is starter gear (maybe there's a more technical name) and big gear is the flywheel. And yes when you put the bolts through it will line everything up.


and don't don;t don't forget to reattach the small bracket at the back of the starter. It's a huge pain but it MUST be done or you'll be doing all this again, and then some.
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I would try hooking cable 2 and cable 1 both on to the big battery post. And the starter wire (cable 3) on to the "S" post. None of my vehicles have anything hooked to the "R".

You do have the battery disconnected while you are monkeying around with the starter, right?

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yes i do lol
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basicly what im asking is please just tell me what cable goes to which in my pics. PLEASE!
There should be only three wires that go to your starter. One is the large battery cable probably #2 or #4 gauge and it goes on the big post. Second is a #8 to #10 gauge wire that also goes on the same big post as the battery cable. Third is the smallest diameter wife around #14 gauge and it gets hooked to the "S" terminal. Nothing gets hooked to the "R" terminal.
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The "R" terminal was used on the old vehicles that had a "Resistor" in the wiring system. The resistor was on vehicles that had points and condenser- and used a resistor to lower the voltage to the coil. When you started the vehicle with a resistor, the draw on the starter lowered the voltage and the resistor also lowered the voltage- so they used the "R" terminal to provide direct current to the coil [increased volts]-- only while cranking.
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The "R" terminal was used on the old vehicles that had a "Resistor" in the wiring system. The resistor was on vehicles that had points and condenser- and used a resistor to lower the voltage to the coil. When you started the vehicle with a resistor, the draw on the starter lowered the voltage and the resistor also lowered the voltage- so they used the "R" terminal to provide direct current to the coil [increased volts]-- only while cranking.
Neat, now i know that LOL

I always wondered but was always too absent minded to ask.
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GOOD NEWS! LOL i got the starter on. switched the wires over and followed yall directions. Well guess what it worked!!!! OMFG! lol thank you all very much. Good thing i asked cause. My brother in-law thinks he knows every damn thing in the world. Hes a *U**ing know it all and kept telling me i had to hook up the return. Well i showed him! lmao! After i fixed it and followed your all directions. He switched his story around and tryed to say thats what he said. **** HIM! lmao caught him in a lie like always. Thanks diesel place for showing him how much of a damn lier he really is. : )
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