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Old 11-03-2007, 10:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1986 F350 6.9 or 1983 Chevrolet 6.2

I just sold my 1988 Dodge ton 4x4 pickup and I am looking at going with a Diesel. I know this is a Chevrolet Pickup Forum and not Ford, however I am looking at two different pickups this weekend.

The first one is a 1983 Chevrolet Silverado ton 6.2 diesel 2wd one owner, older gentleman who has passed away. This truck has 145k miles and is in showroom condition. This truck to the best of my knowledge needs nothing The asking price on this one is $1800.00 firm.

No turbo on this setup.

The second truck I am going to look at tomorrow is a 1986 Ford F350 ext cab 6.9 diesel 2wd dually with a flatbed. This truck has 169K on the odometer and is in decent shape. There is not much rust, but the truck could use a paint job to make it look much better. This truck will need new tires on the back for sure and a windshield, also the interior is decent but will need a little work to be very nice. Also no turbo on this setup.

The price on this one is $1800.00 also.

I have pics of both, but I am not sure how to post them, so if anyone would help post them I can send a few pics for everyone to judge.

I pull a car trailer about 20-25 times a year, and a 24ft travel trailer about 10x per year.

I feel the Ford would be much better for the towing end of it, but one of the things I am not real hip on with the Ford is the Flatbed. I would prefer a nice Dually box.

I think the Chevy would pull a trailer ok, but would also get decent gas mileage, however I will not put a ton of miles on in a years time with either truck.

I plan on taking both trucks to a local Diesel mechanic we have here to look them both over before I would make either purchase.

I am just looking for some feedback on what everyone thinks would be the better truck in the long run and why.

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Tom
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I just sold my 1988 Dodge ton 4x4 pickup and I am looking at going with a Diesel. I know this is a Chevrolet Pickup Forum and not Ford, however I am looking at two different pickups this weekend.

The first one is a 1983 Chevrolet Silverado ton 6.2 diesel 2wd one owner, older gentleman who has passed away. This truck has 145k miles and is in showroom condition. This truck to the best of my knowledge needs nothing The asking price on this one is $1800.00 firm.

No turbo on this setup.

The second truck I am going to look at tomorrow is a 1986 Ford F350 ext cab 6.9 diesel 2wd dually with a flatbed. This truck has 169K on the odometer and is in decent shape. There is not much rust, but the truck could use a paint job to make it look much better. This truck will need new tires on the back for sure and a windshield, also the interior is decent but will need a little work to be very nice. Also no turbo on this setup.

The price on this one is $1800.00 also.

I have pics of both, but I am not sure how to post them, so if anyone would help post them I can send a few pics for everyone to judge.

I pull a car trailer about 20-25 times a year, and a 24ft travel trailer about 10x per year.

I feel the Ford would be much better for the towing end of it, but one of the things I am not real hip on with the Ford is the Flatbed. I would prefer a nice Dually box.

I think the Chevy would pull a trailer ok, but would also get decent gas mileage, however I will not put a ton of miles on in a years time with either truck.

I plan on taking both trucks to a local Diesel mechanic we have here to look them both over before I would make either purchase.

I am just looking for some feedback on what everyone thinks would be the better truck in the long run and why.

Thanks,

Tom
The Ford International Harvester 6.9 is a much more rugged engine than the 6.2 - but it also tends to be a dog on fuel. Ford never put the diesels in any 1/2 tons or light 3/4s, so it's kind of hard to do a fair comparison with 1/2 tons. I have a 6.9 and a 7.3 turbo (both basically the same engines). Both are much better for towing than a 6.2, but both are much worse on fuel when driving empty. 6.9 has a long list of things not found in 6.2s - e.g. forged steel crank, heavy high-nickel block, all gear drive cam and injection pump, hardened valve seat inserts and rotators, etc.

Overall, 6.2 is nicer to have in a lighter truck. If I drive 50 miles to get a few sheets of plywood, my 6.2 truck can get 20 MPG or better. If I take my F250 Ford with the 6.9 to do the same, I get maybe 13 MPG. My 7.3 turbo with overdrive maybe 14 MPG.

Do some heavy towing however, the mileage for any of them stay around the same - but the 6.9 will pull better and faster around hills.

I went on several long camping trips - with a 6.2 pulling a 22 foot camper-trailer. Got 13 MPG for the total trip. My Ford with the 7.3 got 14 MPG for the same trip, and my Dodge Cummins got 19 MPG.

If I had to make the choice, and planned to use the truck for mostly not towing - and the condition of the Chevy is good - I'd pick the 6.2.
If that Ford F350 has a C-6 auto and 4.10 axles, it's probably going to get around 11 -12 MPG best.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think I'd go with the Ford if the main thing you are going to do with it is tow simply on the basis that it is a 1 ton, which is a much heavier truck. Fuel economy won't be as good as with the Chevy.

That's assuming that the Ford is in similar shape mechanically...

However, frankly that's a deal for a showroom condition Chevy... The ford, on the other hand, sounds a bit overpriced. To me anyway.

The Chevy will be much nicer around town and will get better mileage. A much more bearable truck to drive empty.

Keep in mind that a 1/2 ton chevy has a 700R4 automatic. Not a very good towing transmission without a good build. And at 145K miles if it hasn't been rebuilt it will probably need it pretty soon. Almost definitely if you tow with it.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The 83 shouldn't have a 700r4 in it. At least I don't think. My 85 1/2 chevy even though it was gas had a Th350, and I thought the 700 wasn't available till the later 80's. Could be wrong though.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The 700r-4 was available before the late 80's. I have the same set up that he is looking at and wouldn't give this truck up for nothin. Not a big fan of pulling with it though, but it does alright. I have never pulled anything with a 6.9 so can't help there.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I would agree with these guys. If you plan on doing a fair amount of work with your truck, go with the Ford. Much stouter. If you plan on daily driving the truck, with the occasional workout, go for the Chevy. Much more refined, and much better ride than the 1-ton.
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Ok, I was wrong '82 was the first year for the 700r-4 but only behind the diesel. So that truck would have the 700. I guess I was mistaken.
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They never (to my knowledge) put the TH350 behind the 6.2 in a production truck. There are a few running around but I believe they are aftermarket setups. The transmissions installed behind the 6.2 were the TH400 and 700R4 automatics and the NP833 and SM465 manuals.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have both. I've got an 83 F250 and an 85 Suburban Diesel. I love my Suburban, but as far as reliability I just can't beat the truck. Overall it's much tougher. The 700R-4 transmission can tend to be a problem transmission. The 6.2 has it's various issues as well. Also there are all the belt issues with 6.2. Check to see if they have the vibration damper on the crankshaft. I've never had any belt issues with the Ford or really any other issues besides some small issues with the fuel when the levels are low. I haven't even bothered to look into it, just keep driving. I've had it about 5 years and did a little work on brakes, and suspension to get it nice when I got it and haven't done anything other than change oil and filters since. I tow my 21' Sea Ray with it. I've towed car trailers with it. I've destroyed my fair share of stuff with it. It's freakin' sweet.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Ok, I was wrong '82 was the first year for the 700r-4 but only behind the diesel. So that truck would have the 700. I guess I was mistaken.
The first couple or years of the 700R4s had many problems - and many 82-83 6.2 diesel 1/2 ton trucks, Blazers, Suburbans, etc. got converted to TH400s. After late 1985, the 700R4s got a lot better.
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