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Old 08-20-2009, 10:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hello everyone, i need some help i have a 06 lbz-engine lite comes on loss of power and boost. code p0106, i can clear the code and get my boost back but the lite comes back on within a short time. did a search on the code, most problems were because the map sensor was freezing up. not that problem now. if some one could tell me where the sensor is and do you think replacing it would fix the problem?...mike
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Follow the intake from the air filter till you find a sensor on the aluminum block that is three wire. gray, green and I think Yellow but may bewrong on the last color. Maf sensor has like 6 wires on it. Have a tuner on it. If so what brand and model. have you runned it without the tuner if it has one? Post some more details as to mods you have done to your truck.

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Old 08-21-2009, 09:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks for the reply Brian, i have the banks ottomind with pda,banks ram air and banks exhaust, i have had it on for about a year now with no problems.i don't run it hard.i found the sensor and it had a oily film on it, i cleaned it with some contact cleaner and i drove to work today with no code. does that tube pull air from my filter box? could the oily film be from my k&n filter?....mike
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Never pulled mine to see what it looks like. Since it is oily I say the filter is the cause. It is mostly recommended not to use the oily charged ai filter due to issue like you have. They can kill the sensors over time. Another thing as time goes by and you clean and recharge them they actually start feathering on the inside and become thinner and allow more air to pass cause MAF readings to become out of spec. I would look at converting to a 7 layer dry filter.

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Old 08-21-2009, 11:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Agreed with Tanc.........Suggest you read the air filter study done here on this site. Great reading and surprising results..!!

This was comissioned by "Spicer" a long time member of DP and as a result of all the threads that this filter was better than that filter ad nauseatum......

All I can tell ya is that KnN are about the worst filter to use in a diesel..!

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Old 08-22-2009, 01:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Nice reading there Stk.

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Old 08-23-2009, 12:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Not to stir the pot too much but....the damage to the turbo in that article was not caused by "dust particles" getting past the air filter, you only need to filter the air so clean. If you properly clean your K+N (this means not using compressed air to dry it) and oil it lightly (not till oil drips off) you will never have a problem. If you are installing a K+N for more power it is probably a waste of your time, if you are doing it because it will last and save you money on replacement filters it is worth the time. I don't expect to convert those that are set in there belief's but I just wanted to say some of us have used K+N's for many years and hundreds of thousands of miles with absolutely no problems. I do not sell K+N's and I do not have stock in their company, I just hate to see rocks thrown. Have a good day.
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IGO..I just had reason to go back to this thread.

I was not in any way throwing rocks at any product...but the study comissioned by Spicer was done by an independant company testing filtration to ASTM standards...bottom line is that KnN came out dead last. I dont think that is indisputable. And I also am quite sure that if one does in facft use a K n N filter, it wont instantly kill your motor. but filtration is filtration and if one filter allows more particulate matter past its media, then it is in fact doing some greater degree of damage to ones motor than a filter that is simply more efficient and does not allow as much particulate past ... Now, having said that, how long that damage may take to show up as visible catastrophic type of damage is anyones guess... right??

I dont argue that using oilable filters is not as good as using a dry paper Donaldson type, I too use oiled filters..AFE's and I have 2 of them for the exact reason you describe. Cost. when you drive as much as I do annually, it simply makes sense to do so...and I change them out regularly...pretty much every 15-20,000km - same time I do oil changes.

Still, I presonally would not run a K n N (in my diesel), just as I would never run a FRAM or Purolator oil filter.

anyway, it is what it is...ea person will have his own opinion..n thats kewl.

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Great article. K&N's are noted for passing silicates aka sand and is why K&N offers a special sock to go over the filter and keep out the silicates. I to have stopped running a K&N on any of my motors especially my Lawnmower
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