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Old 12-17-2012, 08:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The more time I spend in the Ram at work the firmer my belief becomes that the Duramax Allison combo is quite superior to the Cummins Aisin setup. I have no real complaints about the Ram but I wish it was more like a GM truck. I have often wished for a Ford just to make the long term comparison but there was just to much stuff about Ram that we liked better.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I can comment on the ride..I've driven them all...Gm is the smoothest and most refined BY FAR, but its a completely different set up with the IFS. SFA wont ever ride and steer as nice, but takes abuse a bit better. The dodge rides real nice as well and the interior has gotten much nicer and overall is my favorite. The Ford has a great interior...Im not crazy how they handle, but some people prefer it. They have large cabs which many prefer. Main reason I dont like Ford...is that they are priced much higher than the rest(MSRP might be similar, but they do not discount like the others) and the 6.7 are relatively new. Not saying theyre bad...just new.
Reliability in the first few years has been about the same.
Just MYO, I think the interior in the GM is what hurts it the most. Drive all of them back to back and you'll see what I mean....If GM put a nice classy interior, added a bit of ride height...I think theyd take much more of the truck market. The GMs do ride a bit too low, we do have issues with our bottoming out and losing the bumper fascia...on multiple trucks.
Also look in the engine bay of the 3 companies and ask yourself which one youd rather work on...I dont care what brand your loyal to...Cummins by a long shot.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If I HAD to choose between the Ford and Dodge, and I stress the HAD... Like as in the Devil is ice skating...

I'd choose the Ford. People can say what they want about the "proven durability" of the Cummins, but the cold honest truth is, rarely does anyone keep a truck from new to 250k + miles or more. Some do, don't get me wrong, but most don't. They trade it away for something newer long before the end of its lifespan has been reached, usually well under 200k miles.

The Powerstroke diesel will last just as well as any of the other two under the same conditions and normal wear and tear, and it continuously (as does the Duramax) whips the shit out of the Cummins equipped Dodges in every single head to head performance test.

Everyone always applauds Dodge when they release numbers like 850lb-ft on a 2013, but the fact is, they release those numbers like 6 months to a year after the other manufacturers have stated theirs for the model year. Of course they tuned it to be higher given the time, and in 6 more months the other two manufacterers will release higher numbers yet.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
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new poster here, but the reason why I bought a Ram over GM or Ford.. I could get it with a manual transmission.. IF your like me, that's rather important.
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:16 PM   #15 (permalink)
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If I HAD to choose between the Ford and Dodge, and I stress the HAD... Like as in the Devil is ice skating...

I'd choose the Ford. People can say what they want about the "proven durability" of the Cummins, but the cold honest truth is, rarely does anyone keep a truck from new to 250k + miles or more. Some do, don't get me wrong, but most don't. They trade it away for something newer long before the end of its lifespan has been reached, usually well under 200k miles.

The Powerstroke diesel will last just as well as any of the other two under the same conditions and normal wear and tear, and it continuously (as does the Duramax) whips the shit out of the Cummins equipped Dodges in every single head to head performance test.

Everyone always applauds Dodge when they release numbers like 850lb-ft on a 2013, but the fact is, they release those numbers like 6 months to a year after the other manufacturers have stated theirs for the model year. Of course they tuned it to be higher given the time, and in 6 more months the other two manufacterers will release higher numbers yet.
Well Said, IF i Had to choose between the two, I would choose the Ford, I Like the interior better, the styling of the body is a beefier look than the Ram IMO, and most importantly the resale value is higher. Rarely do we keep Diesel trucks till they are warn out. Personally i do think GM and Ford have always been a year or two ahead of Dodge in terms of styling and interior in big trucks. Just my opinion.
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Old 12-25-2012, 02:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Everyone always applauds Dodge when they release numbers like 850lb-ft on a 2013, but the fact is, they release those numbers like 6 months to a year after the other manufacturers have stated theirs for the model year.
Ford did the same thing when the LML was introduced for the 2011 model year. They originally had lower numbers than the LML and when GM posted their numbers, Ford's numbers magically became higher after GM's introduction. Ford was great at putting high numbers on paper, but we all know what happened in the real world.
I also read recently where Ford was being investigated for advertising higher mileage figures than their recent new vehicles actually achieved. Personally, I think Ford's style of advertising is nauseating.
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i would stay clear of the ford. i have a '12 f550 and its been nothing but troubles, been through 2 turbos, the transmission has been worked on 13 different occasions, it cant seem shift consistently gets stuck in gear, wont upshift, the interior is subpar, the fuel mileage is terrible, the only thing i like about it is the turning radius and it stops really well, other than that the truck and ford support is junk.
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Diesel trucks are like women,they all are great but they all have problems.
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Diesel trucks are like women,they all are great but they all have problems.

That is by far the most spot on statement ive heard in a long time!! Lmao! Perfect.
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Well..... As the proud owner of a 2010 cummins mega cab Laramie I would ABSOLUTLY take that truck and engine combo over a Dmax or ford any day of the week... I had a 04 Dmax and that was complete junk as well as my 03 power stroke and then I have been with cummins ever since. I had a 06 5.9 and probably the best truck I've ever owned and now I have the 6.7 and it's also been great. As far as cummins always being beat in performance I have yet to be beat by ford or Dmax however I would not mind having the Allison trans. Other than that it's cummins all the way. Oh ya and interior wise I'm not sure how many of you have actually rode in or driven a newer cummins especially a Laramie but its very up to date and comfortable ESP with the mega cab. And that's my .02 BOOM


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