I was considering a new 2011 Chevy 3500 truck. I just found out I would need a Commercial drivers license to drive it because it is over 26K GVW. Was wondering what the price of Commercial insurance is on one. I live in CA and have a clean driving record.
I got a 08 duramax 3500hd and i was told that in CA you have to get commercial insurance either your commercial or just private, because its over than 10k gvwr......its the law in CA to have commercial insurance on 1 ton trucks 10gvwr or higher....thats what i was told......maybe somebody knows something else...please feel free
for what its worth it has a gcwr over 26000 the gvwr is 13000 so you should be able to drive it without a cdl unless you have a trailer over 10000, im not sure where you are at but id thoroughly read, investigate, and understand your state/province DOT laws
From what I read the GCVW is 29,000 on the dually 3500 requiring a commercial class A license in CA. I currently own a F450 with a 26K GCVW work truck the insurance due to commercial was $3500 a year. If truck requires CDL you eat it on insurance. Just sold my dump truck that was a GCVW of 26K because insurance costs.
I was just looking into getting an '11 yesterday and had these same questions.
Here is the California DMV chart of what you can drive with which class license http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/cdl_htm/lic_chart.htm
What kills me here in Cali is the cost of the weigh to register our trucks. I didn't have that problem in WA. Oh well, got to pay for what you love to drive. Hope that chart helps.
yea your wrong. GVWR is what the state uses,not the GCVWR, but if the GCVW is over 26k, then yes, cdl. But an empty truck requires no cdl, the only time you would need one on that truck is if you were pulling over 17k or so.
sorry my friend, but your wrong too....! in CA, ANY trailer rated OVER 10K required a class A (non-commercial or commercial, depending on your use)!! And any GCVWR/GVWR OVER 26K requires cdl. but only a class B if not towing a trailer over 10K
remember...... ANY trailer rated over 10kREGARDLESS if it is loaded or empty, if its hooked up to your truck, it requires Class A!
I think your missing the point of the information on the vehicle decals.
On the driver's door jam for the truck, and the left front corner of the trailer.
Empty or loaded to the vehicle limit, the max on the decals tell the tale. And dictate the license required.
Use a class 8 to pull a empty utility trailer, weights about 22,000 (under 26,000) but the decals and the registration say much more.....CDL required.
I think your missing the point of the information on the vehicle decals.
On the driver's door jam for the truck, and the left front corner of the trailer.
Yes, the truck's GVWR on the sticker (13,000 lb) and the trailer GVWR (10k in the bumper pull case or 13k in the fifth wheel case) would be the weights to go by. My point was to say that the truck could be driven empty without a CDL because of its individual GVWR. Also, it could be used to pull a trailer without a CDL, it wouldn't be close to what the truck was capable of but still legal.
Empty or loaded to the vehicle limit, the max on the decals tell the tale. And dictate the license required.
Agreed
Use a class 8 to pull a empty utility trailer, weights about 22,000 (under 26,000) but the decals and the registration say much more.....CDL required.
Yes, but the Class 8 would be rated higher from the factory so it automatically qualifies for a CDL (>26k GVWR) when compared to the LML. Isn't a standard ten wheel tractor rated for 46k GVWR and when coupled to a standard eight wheel trailer (34k GVWR) rated for 80k GCWR. I understand what you mean regarding the sticker weights being the ones that count.
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