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Old 12-28-2005, 12:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Electric over Hydraulic trailer brakes

Is there anybody here using electric over hydraulic brakes? The 10 ton gooseneck we have now has electric brakes and we are thinkin about tryin something different on the next trailer we order. It seems like with the electric brakes, if you turn them up enough to stop a load on the highway, they are really jerky when you slow down. You dont notice it so much with a 14k trailer but this 20k just about throws you through the windshield. You constantly have to be turning the power up and down. Do the elect. over hyd. have plenty of braking power?? Are they jerky like electric? The Featherlite we used to have had hydraulic brakes and they were nice but we dont want to spend the money to set up both of our trucks to pull a hydraulic brake trailer. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 12-28-2005, 01:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What brake controller are you using? I had the same problem on a single axle snowmobile trailer behind my old half ton using a draw-tite controller I left that piece of in the truck when I sold it. I now have a prodigy in the Dmax and the problem is gone. Your problem sounds like you are using a time based brake controller instead of an inertia based controller.
I have read good things about the electric over hydraulic disk brakes, but found out that they are very picky about which controller you use (My dad's Hayes controller was recommended, my Prodigy was not.)
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Electric over Hydraulic is the ONLY way to go on larger trailers.

I love our new stocktrailer! No more hard grabbing, or fade. The best part is the braking stays 'balanced' on the wheels for much better control under panic stops.

Best part is that they do stand up to repeated hard stops without drama.
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Old 12-28-2005, 01:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Electric over Hydraulic is definately a better system if you can afford it. I also question what controller you are using. There are a couple here that people recommed...my personal choice is a Prodigy. Others have used Brakesmart.
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Lots of states no longer allow hydraulic brakes.
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I have hydraulic brakes on my 15k 5th wheel and they are a big improvement over the basic electrics. Much better stopping power. There are several brands available. I have Dexter.

My understanding is that grabbiness in hydraulics is an issue between the controller in the truck and the actuator in the trailer. Mine tend to be grabby at times, but the Dexter's now have an new actuator they claim fixes this.
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Lots of states no longer allow hydraulic brakes.
Do you have any evidence of this? Was it specifically surge brakes? Could you be more specific?
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I have a 2005 Gooseneck brand 28x7 cattle trailer with Electric over Hydraulic brakes and love them. I also got a 2004 Gooseneck brand 24x7 with regular electric brakes lafter hauling with the 28' the brakes are night and day compared to my 24'
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Electric over Hyd brakes are much smoother. The prodiagy brake controller is not recommended for it either and just to let boon know the Draw-tite controller is made by Cequent Towing Products who also make Tekonsha.
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Do you have any evidence of this? Was it specifically surge brakes? Could you be more specific?
I knew I remembered reading about this somewhere. It's not so much that states outlaw surge brakes, rather there is a law designed for tractor trailers that requires some method for activating the brakes from the cab other than just pressing the brake pedal. One of these articles deals with Maryland, which has since changed it's law and now does allow surge brakes without a cab controller for trailers under 10,000 GVR. Neither of these is the article I remember reading (it was a neat state by state chart on trailer laws) but they do reference the fact that many states make no difference in the laws for big rigs vs laws for non-commercial trailers and therefore do not allow surge brakes without the separate controller in the cab.. They do point out that several states are intending to modify their laws to follow Marylands lead in allowing surge brakes for trailers under the weight limit.


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