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Old 06-17-2005, 10:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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5th wheel hitch placement

A bit of a silly question for most I'm sure, but I'm new to pulling 5ers so bear with me please.

I've got a short bed with stacks and then a toolbox behind the stacks. I've also got a small aux tank directly under the toolbox the same width as the toolbox. I'm thinking of buying a 5er holiday trailer and need to know if I can do it or not for clearance issues. I can pull the toolbox no problem for clearance on top of the bed, but my problem lies in the bed. If I install the hitch, the pin will be located probably 10-14 inches behind the center of the axle.

Question is; Is the 10"-14" OK or no? How bad will this thing buck and sway on me? I don't plan on the trailer being very big or heavy, all I'm worried about is placement of the pin. All the rig drivers I've ever talked to like the pin either smack in the middle of the axles or slightly forward. What do you guys with much more experience say?
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Old 06-17-2005, 10:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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you want it 1 1\2 inches in front of the center of the axle no more then that depending wich hitch you go to you will have to know what distace to put the rails from the end of the bed
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you want it 1 1\2 inches in front of the center of the axle no more then that depending on which hitch you go to you will have to know what distance to put the rails from the end of the bed
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Dead center or forward up to an 1" is my preference.
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I am an rv dealer when we install the hitch in a short box we
set it dead center on the ax
long box 2" ahead
my own truck is set at dead center or can move back 7" to make a full 90
degree corner
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So all is as I though. Now..... What would the ride be like and the handling if one were to run it the way I described, 10"-14" back, maybe not even that far, but I estimated large.
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I Install 5th wheels and trailer hitches and you should not install one that far back of the axle. On a short bed truck you install the rails over the axle then put a slider unit on it to help in manuvering the 5th wheel in tight spots. Also the bed is not stable where you plan on putting it. I think you will also run into interferance problems. You can go to www.draw-tite.com and download installation instructions for a p/n 6005 rail kit and that will give you the measurement. The engineers design this for the safety of not only you but also anyone that is travelling around you.
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The most slide I can get is 12" on a 15K or 16K hitch. But like you said, designed only for maneuvering, not bombing down the highway. I tried.
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If you're not going to have a very big 5th wheel, have a welding shop put a custom pin box on it moving the king pin quite a ways forward on the trailer. DO NOT mount the hitch behind the axle, it will tow like crap. Not to mention the bed isn't built for that either. If you just can't make it work, maybe go with a bumper pull.
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
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DO NOT mount the hitch behind the axle. Very dangerous steering wise.
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