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Old 08-23-2004, 08:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here's the deal ... I will be taking delivery of my new '05 GMC 3500 Duramax/Allison truck from the dealer on Thursday. Then on Friday it gets a spray in bed liner applied. On Saturday I will have a 20K Reese fifth wheel hitch installed, and will then take delivery of a new Dune Chaser 37CK fifth wheel toy hauler. I will have to tow the toy hauler fifty miles back home, and it is fifty miles up hill, being as the dealer is at 2,500 ft altitude, and I live at 6,200 ft altitude. Most of that increase in altitude takes place during a ten mile long stretch of I-15, on the Black Ridge, in the southwest corner of Utah.


If I don't pick up the toy hauler (dry weight 9,870 lbs) on Saturday, then I have to wait two full weeks to pick it up due to my work schedule.


What advise do you have for someone that needs to tow 10,000 lbs with a new truck (other than to remember to put the tailgate down after unhooking the fifth wheel hitch)? How can I best accomplish this tow with minimal impact on my new truck?


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Old 08-23-2004, 09:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Owner's manual says less than 55 MPH and no towing for the first 500 miles, then under 50 MPH for the first 500 miles of towing...


Some here will say it doesn't make any difference, but that big old G80 will get warm breaking in, downright hot if you push it. If you break it and haven't followed the manual, like the rear end seizes up half way home, where are you at?


I'd wait the two weeks if it were me and get that first 500 miles on it.
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tow it like you stole it.
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Take the long way to the Dune Chaser dealer; the long, long way.

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I am going to try and put 100 miles on the truck Thursday night. I'll tell my wife that we have to go drive the new truck . Then I think I can put another 100 miles on it Friday night. That will put 200 miles on the truck before I have to tow our old toy hauler (5,700 lb dry weight) downhill to the Dune Chaser dealer. The tow back home with the new toy hauler would then begin with 250 miles on the truck, and the first "tow" would be a downhill tow with less weight behind the truck. I'm hoping that will be a decent enough break in, especially if I keep my towing speed to less than 50 mph.
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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In my opinion, you will be OK if you take it very easy. It is very hard not to floor the Dmax all the time, but with restraint, you will be OK.

Your concerns are mostly heat build ups in the axle but the engine, turbo and tranny all are seating their new parts in this period and create heat and wear products.
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As it turns out now, I may not be able to pick up the new Dune Chaser this Saturday afterall, because they will not have the 20K Reese hitch in stock by then. This RV dealer has been selling these big fifth wheel toy haulers with 15K hitches installed in their customers trucks! Hello, ... the GVWR for these trailers is anywhere between 16,950 lbs., and 18,500 lbs. They acted surprised when I asked for a 20K rated hitch, and then I acted surprised when they said they had NEVER sold one above 15K. Now thats scary, that there are that many trucks on the highway with marginal hitch strength, because I'll bet that other RV dealers do the same thing this one does.


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Hmmm, mines rated at 30,000......
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Have a freind who just bought an 04 D/A because his '01 8.1L was getting along in age. He was in the middle of a trip out to good 'ole Idaho. Well, he had to head to California in the next day or so, puling a 35' Alfa. Dealer cringed, but said but some, any, but some miles on it before towing, and he got about 300 on it before hooking up. Pulled 3000 mile straight before getting home, and seemd to not have any issues.

Talked to him after he left and he said he certainly took it easy first 500 or so miles, which was primarily flat.

Common sense seems to be the answer, don't over push it for a few miles, and things should be OK. Edited by: ChevyPackin'Heat
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My biggest concern is the rear axle as it takes about 500 to 1000 miles for it to "lap" in and to much too soon can scar it so to speak. Personally I would not tow that heavy of a load until you have atleast 500 miles on it (preferably more) and change rear axle lube before you tow too.
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