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Old 06-05-2012, 10:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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LB7 Batmowheel Review

Long story short its worth the money but not worth the work.

**Before you start buy a 2.00 gasket for the oil drain (dont use silicone it will leak TRUST ME) and a metal flange gasket that goes between the inlet and exhaust side of the turbo in the v band groove, also I used some high heat red silicone for the turbo front cover and black silicone for the intake horn.

I did this install about a month ago and so far am loving it. I have yet to have my truck retuned for the wheel but with running the same tunes as before I have seen a difference. The turbo definately flows more air now and power is increased throughout the entire rpm range but I can tell my turbo definately is lighting faster. Where I have really seen this part shine is in throttle response but most of all with towing. Running on the same roads with the same load as I have done numerous times with the stock charger I needed tow haul mode I now am no longer using that unless I feel the need for the grade braking feature. For those of you who are looking for whistle this wheel definately gives you that, from 3psi and up you can hear this baby whistle at ya (even over my 35 mts and dual 6" stacks). A part I would definately recommend is a Banks or BD wastegate; I ran this wheel with my stock waste gate for a couple weeks and had the problem of it making my stock wastegate blow off prematurely (dont ya hate it when that happens :rofl ). I talked to Tim at SJD about this observation and he said that another alternative to the wastegate would be a ppe boost increase valve but neither of us have tested this idea out.
Now to the negative. The price is right for these wheels but damn does it suck to put this part in. If you have ever takin your turbo apart or have a friend that has then this will be a breeze but if you have never done it before then put aside a whole weekend to do it. One big mistake I made that ate up alot of my time was I tried to take off my front cover prior to splitting the turbo apart at the v band. There are people that can do this according to this forum but after three hours of trying to get one bolt out and numerous trips to town to borrow tools and buy wrenches to bend in numerous ways I decided to undo the band clamp and take the turbo apart there then take off the front cover. The other recommendation I would make is wait till you have to change your injectors or your cp3 to do this install. I have done both and wished I had this wheel when I did those installs cuz to install this wheel the entire valley of the block has to be cleared out. Intake, air horn, ficm, fuel lines, y-bridge, coolant lines, wastegate, and Im sure a few other things I am forgetting; which all have to be removed to do an injector pump or injectors. Also this would be a good time to put a portedx intake horn on or a ProFab intake horn if you ever plan to do one.

On this install my best friend was a magnet and 1/4" drive socket set, get one in metric with numerous extensions and a swivel joint. Most every other tool I used can be found in most everyones tool box; screw driver set, 3/8 drive socket set, metric wrench set, 3/4 combination wrench, chisels/punches, allen wrenches, pliers of different sizes and I know I am forgetting something.

I will try to get pictures up soon but if anyone has any questions send them my way and I will do my best to answer them. I would have done a write up but my install started at about 2pm drug on till 3am then started over at 6am the next morning so I wasnt really in the mood to type everything I was doing on my phone. Sorry guys
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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so can you put the wheel in by just removing the front half of the turbo? or did you have to take the whole things out?
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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How much faster does the turbo spool with this mod. I plan on doing this when I get home from Afghan to clear up a little smoke due to turbo lag. Also what's the max psi you are seeing. Thanks for the info.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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dam! sounds like you had one hell of a time.

the batmowheel can be done in the truck without taking the turbo out, and not tryin to bad mouth the OP or anything, but can be done in a lot less time and with less parts removal than stated above. me and my buddy did his BW and down pipe on his lb7 in probably 5-6 hours and that was with a good lunch/beer break and time to redneck up a custom wrench for the one bolt on the front cover that I'm sure is the same one the OP is referring to and this was our first attempt ever at turbo modification.

from what i remember you unhook/remove all the usual stuff like intake, ds boost tube, pcv hose, wg hose, turbo mp(removing ac compressor and using long 1/4" ext. and swivel makes this a breeze), unhook wire harness over the mp and intake heater and set aside, that's all i can think of in front of the turbo. unhook the oil feed and coolant hose to the turbo just for clearance to get to the front housing bolts, remove the bolts, the bottom passenger side bolt is the bitch one that required a custom wrench. what we did was take a box end wrench and grind the wall down around the box as thin as you think you can go without the wrench breaking when you try to use it then grind the shaft of the wrench down to about half its width from the box end out to about 1.5" or so up the handle. with all the other front cover bolts removed the custom wrench should only be needed to break the pia bolt loose then you should be able to rotate the housing down on the driver side to get better access to the bolt then finagel the cover off and your there. we had the down pipe off so we just stuck a rachet with the proper socket in the hot side of the turbo to hold the shaft while we removed the wheel. remember the nut on the wheel is reverse threads and assembly is just reverse. I'm pretty sure that's about all we removed other than the glowplug controller to do the down pipe.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I wouldnt suggest trying to push out anymore than 32 psi from the factory charger. BW or not... things can get iffy after that! LOL
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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my buddies truck is a zf6 so it will have a slightly different behavior than those with the auto, but he said theres no real difference in peak boost but spool up and cool down seems quite a bit faster. also like mentioned above there is definately a whistle increase, especially from outside the truck. i dont know if its flowing much more air but it seems to have slightly lightened up his smoke when he mashes on it, not a lot but a little, and he is running the ats e-power on the 270hp tune on the stock turbo so it pretty much smokes like a cummins.
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Vern no offense takin at all if there is an easier way than how I did it I'm not opposed to hearing it and when I had to repair the leak on my oil drain I got the whole thing done in like 4 hrs so I know it can be done faster than what it took me the first time I just like the idea of splitting the turbo at the v band so I could hold the exhaust wheel while installing my billet wheel.

And to answer a couple questions the whole turbo does not need to be removed and where I was seeing 1-2 psi cruising I'm now at 3-4 and with my 35s I always had to give it a little gas to get moving but now I have a lot of my throttle response back like stock if not more. So if somebody is geared or has smaller tires you will see an even bigger improvement than I did. As for my Max psi it is still the same because I left my banks wastgate set the same as before I just get to that 28-30 psi a lot faster but can still hold it, with the banks wastgate that is the stock wastegate couldn't hold it and was blowing off sooner
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you still have to remove the y bridge to get the front of the turbo off?
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