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Old 01-03-2013, 12:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm new here on diesel place, I just got out of the military and instead of going back to massachusetts (where I'm from) it looks like my wife and I will be staying on the central coast of california, and I will have to become a resident of california soon. I have an 07 LBZ CCSB and it will need to go through smog I'm sure. I currently have the Banks 6 Gun with PDA and MBRP Downpipe/MBRP 5'' with Muffler, I saved the cat for emergency purposes, the MBPR system was welded together by the shop that installed it so just swapping it out isn't realistic. I need to find a shop thats gonna be able to pass my truck through smog/inspection without a cat. If anyone knows of one please let me know. Thanks
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Good luck.... The inspection is pretty generic however they do look it over and see if all the underside stuff is there. They also hook it up to their machine and check error codes, I had just removed my Edge for the inspection and reset the ECM back to stock. Well that reset everything in the computer, I don't remember what the perimeters were that were also zeroed out, but the guy immediately asked me if I had a tuner on it and if I had just reset it to stock. Busted, I said yes and he told me that they could not test the truck if it had more that 2 failed codes (don't remember which ones). I freaked out. He told me that all I had to do was drive it about 75 - 80 miles and all the codes (he showed me which ones needed to be reset) would reset to normal and he could then test it. I hooked up my reader and went for a drive, at exactly 76 miles they reset, took it back and it passed fine. Moral of the story, return your truck to normal at least 100 miles before you test. Welcome to the Peoples Republic of California...
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Well that's not what I wanted to hear, but thanks for the info
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Navy Buff - that's the Peoples Soviet Socialist Republic of California. We are located 12 very important miles north of that magic line and I can't stand going through the "grocery customs" every time I head south.
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~~~ Welcome to the Peoples Soviet Socialist Republic of California...
One more little tidbit:

Newer vehicles catch a break

Recorder On Line, Staff and Wire Reports, December 31, 2012

Vehicle owners who need to get their car smog tested may now have to take it to a designated STAR station.

The change goes into effect Jan. 1, but later in the year a much more significant change will occur for owners of vehicles built in 2000 or after.

William Malone, a supervisor with the Fresno office of the Bureau of Automotive Repair, said by end of the third quarter of the year, cars model year 2000 or newer will no longer have their tailpipe emissions tested on treadmill-like machines known as dynamometers. Instead, technicians will plug into the vehicles’ on-board computers to find out how well the cars perform when they’re actually on the road.

For older vehicles, the same test will be required, and for vehicles targeted as likely gross polluters they will be routed to specially certified smog check stations that will be subject to stricter oversight by the state.

Those not designated as having to go to a STAR station can still go to a test-only station Len Ballin, owner of Len’s Electro Tune in Porterville, said he was not sure what the changes will mean, but the new test later in the year should shorten the time needed for the test and may reduce the cost a little.

The new plan, known as STAR, replaces the state’s Gold Shield program.

The need for change is clear, officials say. A 2009 audit found that 19 percent of cars that initially passed a smog check ended up failing a roadside inspection within a year.

“We want to make sure the people testing those vehicles are doing a good job of it,” said Russ Heimerich, a spokesman for the state Department of Consumer Affairs, which includes the Bureau of Automotive Repair.

The software needed to monitor diagnostic computers will prove cheaper than the dynamometers, Heimerich said. That, in turn, should bring down the price drivers pay for the every-other-year tests.

Ballin said he had not yet seen all the details on the new program later in the year, so he did not want to comment. He said usually when the state comes up with a new test, it means new equipment and costs.

Malone said the new test will require new equipment.

“The overhead for smog [testing] is not zero,” said Ballin.

San Francisco attorney William Ferreira, who specializes in automotive cases, filed a lawsuit earlier this year attempting to block the program on behalf of a Southern California smog shop.

Many stations will be unable to qualify to meet the new, stricter standards required by the state to test older and dirtier cars, Ferreira said. That could effectively force them out of business.

Some of those standards are not within the control of smog-test business owners, he said.

For instance, whether cars remain in compliance after passing a smog check depends on many factors, such as the number of miles drivers put on those cars and whether they are properly maintained.

Malone, however, said the standards are not being changed, just the testing.

Ballin said the idea is because emissions of newer vehicles are monitored by the vehicle’s computer, all a technician has to do is connect to the computer and take a reading.

The Bureau of Automotive Repair and the California Air Resources Board sponsored 2010 legislation to revamp the smog check program, a major upgrade in technology that would have the same effect as removing 800,000 old cars off the road.

To learn more about the new smog check program visit smogcheck.ca.gov. To find a Smog Check station, go to
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AB 2289 now requires the smog test inspection to rely on data from a vehicle's own on board emissions computer to determine the vehicle's harmful emissions production as opposed to using a smog machine to sample the vehicle's emissions output from the tailpipe. This design is expected to reduce the cost of equipment at the smog station, reduce the amount of time it takes to smog check a vehicle, and reduce the cost of the smog inspection to the consumer.

AB 2289 - Makes changes to the following smog inspection procedures and guidelines:

A. Authorize the use of On Board Diagnostic II testing to expedite the process.
B. Vehicles known to release large amounts of pollution must test at stations with the highest performance ratings.
C. Stricter fines structure for improper inspections.
D. Permit the state to contract with the private sector to manage franchise-like networks of independently owned Smog Check stations.
E. Encourage community colleges and other training institutions to develop technician-training programs.
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Navy Buff - that's the Peoples Soviet Socialist Republic of California . We are located 12 very important miles north of that magic line and I can't stand going through the "grocery customs" every time I head south.
I stand corrected .....
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